14 Replies Latest reply: Sep 7, 2012 9:39 AM by jaybeezee RSS

Verizon Phone on C Spire network?

Illuminated

If a Samsung Facsinate were flashed with c spire software, radio, etc, and EFS is cleared could it be registered on the c spire network?  I image it would be if c spire will allow non registered MEID #s to be "registered" on their network.

The Facsinate is idenitcal to the Showcase.  Samsung made the SCH-i500 for Verizon, US Cellular, CellSouth, and several other regional carriers.

Anyone have experience with this?

  • Re: Verizon Phone on C Spire network?
    Enlightened

    That would be cool but Cspire would not let you do it on their network

  • Re: Verizon Phone on C Spire network?
    C Spire Liz CommunityModerator

    @Zerocool

     

    That's something you'd need to check with an engagement specialist in a local store.

  • Re: Verizon Phone on C Spire network?
    JASON KNOARZ Enlightened

    As others have replied, C Spire will not historically let you use another companies phone on their network even if compatible.

    • Re: Verizon Phone on C Spire network?
      Shining

      That's the one thing I miss about AT&T.... SIM cards. Just pop your SIM in a phone and go.  

       

      Still probably will hop to VRZ for the Galaxy Nexus but hopefully, CSpire will get its LTE act together which could help with this locked to carrier CDMA situation. 

      • Re: Verizon Phone on C Spire network?
        Illuminated

        Same here..if you wanted to stay with your plan, you could buy a GSM phone anywhere and slap the SIM in and away you go. 

         

        From what I understand its more of a policy issue than anything else.  I have the correct radio, recovery, and factory image loaded to the fascinate, and now I have the EFS cleared so it is not registered to the VZ network.  Just wish they would let me try.  Isn't C Spire suposed to be about what the customer wants!

         

        That being said, I do understand that if they (C Spire) are not going to program the phones, then they would have alot of trouble when the average Joe brings one in off the street.

         

        I guess no one out there has been sucessfull with this task.  Come on C Spire...let me be a first!

  • Re: Verizon Phone on C Spire network?
    Enlightened

    im pretty sure you cant do that! i tried buying a "cellsouth" phone off of ebay before and it def. wasnt a cellsouth phone. they are very picky about the phones they let the customers use!

  • Re: Verizon Phone on C Spire network?
    hendrix2 Brilliant

    See I am not sure about this but I believe it is more of a FCC regulation than a Cspire policy. I never could use a Att phone with verizon or vice versa. Same with Sprint. Each company has certain phones they can use on their network it is not so much a Cspire blocking you something or someone much higher. As far as Ebay goes have gotten many good Cspire phones from Ebay. The thing is make sure it is a Cspire phone first and make sure they will take it back if it is not. If they lie about contact ebay and they will make things right get your money back. I have had no problems getting phones off Ebay. I have gotten 3 phones off ebay. Also you can check stores for discounted remanufactored phones to use until you have an upgrade available. Hope this helps

    • Re: Verizon Phone on C Spire network?
      Shining

      CSpire uses CDMA technology.  Verizon and Sprint also use these types of cellular radios.

       

      AT&T and TMobile use GSM which use user replaceable SIM cards.

       

      The Galaxy Nexus from Google is GSM only.

       

      It's not so much a regulation from the FCC that's prevents the use of GSM phones, it's the technology of the networks being incompatible that stops it.

       

      Now, with Verizon, Sprint and CSpire all using CDMA, there is technically nothing really preventing the use of one company's phone on another network. You'll roam on to Sprint or Verizon when ever you get outside of the CSpire home area. Any of them to program a phone from another provider, but the phone has to be able to be allowed on the network and if the serial number of the phone doesn't check out, it won't work.

       

      CDMA carriers do not as a matter of policy allow other CDMA carriers phones to natively be on their networks due to each carrier not knowing what software is or is not on the other carrier's phone. So say if there was a special Blockbuster movie app on a Verizon phone that is exclusive to Verizon but also uninstallable, CSpire would not be able to provide support for that app if it was used on their network.

       

      Another thing to keep in mind is that for the CDMA carriers, they each have to buy every phone in bulk from Samsung, HTC, etc that is on their network. They know what serial numbers they have purchased so they know if the phone is allowed on the network or not.  This allows them to totally control the entire process and limit your choice of phones. It would be like only being able to use TV's that you bought or were purchased from Comcast to watch TV. This actually sort of happens already because you have to have a Comcast digital cable box in order to watch Comcast digital cable, DirecTV for DirecTV and etc. But that's probably a good analogy for most people to get the idea.

       

      GSM carriers do not have to worry about this. As long as the SIM card is active, pretty much any GSM phone will work if it is unlocked or native to the GSM carrier's network.  It's more consumer friendly because you can just pickup a GSM phone, pop your sim in and go. However, to be able to do this, unlocked GSM phones tend to cost more because they are not carrier subsidized.

       

      The unlocked price is the actual price of the phone that people have been led to belive for so long that the new customer price is the real price. This is not the case but that's a tangent I will not cross right now.

       

      So the moral of the story is, you can only use phones that have been offically released by the carrier on CDMA networks. CS to CS. Sprint to Sprint. Verizon to Verizon.  You can activate a friend's or someone else's phone you bought on a CDMA network, but ONLY if it was already on the network before and if the phone has been cleared of any past due bills or useage overages.

       

      The FCC doesn't have anything to do with it.